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[MykeNukem]

When you brand your forum "mud pit politics" and there is a clear focus on politics in your forum structure, new users will expect to find political discourse and expect to find other users who don't shy away from debate. You seem to have realized the branding mistake and have since rebranded, which I wholeheartedly agree with. Had this been the brand from the beginning, I probably wouldn't have wasted my time.

There was no mistake, it was filling a niche that ATS didn't provide at the time, 'The Mud Pit'.

This site was never advertised or indexed by search engines until our recent domain change and expansion, so it was basically an echo chamber politically with a few core members and friends from ATS that came over, agreed, we mostly leaned the same way politically, so, not much debate.

Since ATS is now down, we decided to refocus and expand.

I always welcomed you here, as I do everyone.

The political forums will remain too.