(08-19-2025, 07:47 AM)Michigan Swampbuck Wrote: The ideals of the Constitution and our political system in the U.S.A. have been usurped. It is painfully apparent that our system, created for and by Western Europeans, cannot function in a multicultural society. This is not a racist statement, just admitting that this great political experiment has obviously failed.

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Bottom line is, nothing can move forward without knowing what in the Hell is actually going on with our country. If criminal behavior, corruption and bribes are what we actually are working with, then in order to get things done, we have to operate in the same manner. No one can work with a system that no longer is being used, and if this is how things are done in the U.S.A., then that is how it is.

Your OP brings to mind a favorite quote:
   

(08-22-2025, 10:59 PM)AwakeNotWoke Wrote: Your OP brings to mind a favorite quote:

That would be a lot of fertilizer, but we might be able to feed a liberty tree forest with that much. I want to have hope that Trump is draining enough swamp to make a difference, but unless that pendulum swings really hard to the right, it won't last.

Resistance is all we have left if speech is dead and voting is rigged. Tell them we won't play their game, and they can take their ball and go home. Other than rejecting the entire system and offering only passive resistance when they come to arrest you, violence will be the final act of desperation.

We might stand a chance if we can take over a few states and build a robust economy to keep the federal money out of the area. If we were strong enough to maintain control over a few states, that power would render secession unnecessary.

(08-25-2025, 09:06 AM)Michigan Swampbuck Wrote: That would be a lot of fertilizer, but we might be able to feed a liberty tree forest with that much. I want to have hope that Trump is draining enough swamp to make a difference, but unless that pendulum swings really hard to the right, it won't last.

That may be hard to do with vote rigging.




Apparently I forgot how to post a picture. 

I do not believe there is any way back for the USA. Whilst Trump is making some moves, I see it as quite similar to 2017 in his first term.
Lots of talk, but the deep state is intact and are embedded so deep they hold the reigns of power regardless of elections.
Trump can throw stones for 4 years but he's not going to have an impact - and I rather suspect the Republicans will lose the house in 2026 - and the remaining two years will be just investigations and impeachments, followed by Trump and many around him going to jail in 2028.

Sad, but i feel true.

(09-07-2025, 12:03 PM)UKTRUTH Wrote: I do not believe there is any way back for the USA.  Whilst Trump is making some moves, I see it as quite similar to 2017 in his first term.
Lots of talk, but the deep state is intact and are embedded so deep they hold the reigns of power regardless of elections.
Trump can throw stones for 4 years but he's not going to have an impact - and I rather suspect the Republicans will lose the house in 2026 - and the remaining two years will be just investigations and impeachments, followed by Trump and many around him going to jail in 2028.

Sad, but i feel true.

We are on the downhill side of the peak of our civilization. I'd say past the peak of our culture or empire, but this is global now. We have become a global culture, or at least a culture with major global influence, so it isn't like one culture dies out and is assimilated by the rest, but the entire world culture, civilization itself, dies out leaving a vacuum to be occupied by something else. In my opinion at any rate.