The manuscript has a lot of drawings with organic looking tubes. There is also the concept of "openers" in herbal medicine, which sounds pretty vague to me.

Nevertheless, "openers" may be a clue to understanding.

Earlier in the thread I posted a quote from forgottenlanguages dot org here: post where the term "openers" is used.

Quote:A passage containing a list of “openers” can be perceived similarly
in the eyes of a physician: knowledge of the properties of a plant may be
sufficient for the preparation of a medicine based on a list of plants:

(smile) tubes + openers, get it?

My odd humour aside. I thought herbs as openers would open the tubes.

So, as I have had this annoying sinus congestion left over from covid for months, I thought I would pick up a pendulum and do some diagnostic work. If my sinuses are blocked, it makes sense to think of openers as a part of a treatment regime, instead of reaching for a quick fix from the pharmacist's shop.

Out of my herb garden, and pantry, the pendulum selected rosemary as an appropriate opener in my case. So boil the kettle and inhale the steam of rosemary tea.

It works of course, one doesn't need to be a herbalist to know inhaled herbs help relieve sinus congestion. Menthol would probably have worked too to open the sinus. However, the pendulum selected rosemary. 

In material medicine, we think of blood vessels and lymphatic as tubes. We can also add nerves and similar body parts. The gastrointestinal is a tube, along with the urethra. The proper function of these tubes would all be very much a case of open and closed. Our arteries get clogged with cholesterol with old age. 

I'll keep treating myself with rosemary with the view of opening tubes. I shall also think in terms of expanding the treatment.

We have a dowsing thread here on Cypher Age by the way.

Pondering the manuscript today . . .

Let's consider this very speculative : )

So let's try an avenue of approach using the established principles of medical dowsing.  Back in the 1990s, I had a set of Radionic instruments made by Delawarr Laboratories in England.  These instruments used the dowsing sense with two sets of worksheets. The first set of worksheets used locations within the human body, human anatomy. The second set used disease conditions.  Everything from leprosy to vitamin deficiencies.  Those worksheets and the diagnostic logic behind them were wonderful. Medical dowsing also needs a witness, as it is called. The witness is a specimen of the patient, a drop of blood or a hair sample will do.

The Voynich looks to be divided into three parts.

• Plants.
  
• Tubes with little women.
  
• Astrological? Alchemy?
  

The book seems to be a herbal, so why not apply the principles of medical dowsing to the Voynich?

• Plants = remedy?
  
• Tubes with little women = anatomy?
  
• Astrological/Alchemy = medical knowledge?
  

Now let's keep in mind that the manuscript is old and predates modern medicine. So we would try not to be bound by modern medical conventions.

Another thing I would keep in mind is the eastern concepts of the yogas where they observe the subtle anatomy of chakras, meridians and other pranic channels. Basically that is the way spiritual energies flow through pathways of the body, the aetheric body, the astral, and so on.

My thoughts here are Voynich "tubes" may perhaps equate with the pranic channels of the eastern philosophies. Just because we may have been born in England does not mean we don't have the anatomy described in the eastern philosophies.

We also need an illness and a "guinea pig", I happen to have those as per my post above.

The Voynich PDF from the OP and not the manuscript itself, has sections:

1. Plants from page 7 to page 116, so 109 entries.
   
2. Charts from page 119 to page 137.
   
3. The little women and tubes from page 138 to page 157.
   
4. More unknown charts(?) page 158 to page 163.
   
5. Plants again from page 164 to page 189.
   
6. The rest is text.
   

The simplest idea is the manuscript describes herbal medicine, so logically the plants equal remedy and the women and tubes equal locations and systems in the body.  If so, we should be able to match the plants to the location.  Herbal medicine also includes poisons, so let's not forget that.

Let's take abdominal pain. A blockage in the bile duct as an example. The bile duct would need an "opener" perhaps to pass the stone or dissolve it. The stone has crystallised when it shouldn't. So we  have the forces of crystallisation at play here.  Crystallisation is a change of levels from liquid to solid, so we also have the change of levels from gaseous to liquid.  Then there is the reverse process, which is decrystalisation. 

We should be able to create two lists of images from the list above. One list is the plant pictures (remedy?) , and the other list is the little women and tubes (location?).

We can then use a pendulum and test this for matches, say a remedy and a location. We won't know what that means, but it will be a beginning.

I'm using conventional dowsing techniques for this exercise. Other people should be able to follow the logic in that way, and perhaps reproduce results themselves.

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ETA:What I mean by the principal of crystalisation and decrystalisation is the change in levels. Say from gaseus to liquid and solid. Yet we have one more, from solid to crystalline. Like coal (carbon) can be crystalised into a diamond. That is a step further. Water is said to be crystaline by the way, liquid crystal. Crystals also trap memories by the way ; )

Let's also take into account metabolism. Catabolism is the breaking-down aspect of metabolism, whereas anabolism is the building-up aspect.

So my thoughts here are the shifts in levels, and the separation and combining of matter.

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ETA: Let's simplify our definition of metabolism even more to the disassembly and assembly of matter.

Catabolism = disassembly.
Anabolism = assembly.

For example we digest protiens and our bodys use the sulphur to create new proteins for ourselves.

(06-16-2025, 12:09 AM)NobodySpecial268 Wrote: So, as I have had this annoying sinus congestion left over from covid for months, I thought I would pick up a pendulum and do some diagnostic work. If my sinuses are blocked, it makes sense to think of openers as a part of a treatment regime, instead of reaching for a quick fix from the pharmacist's shop.

Out of my herb garden, and pantry, the pendulum selected rosemary as an appropriate opener in my case. So boil the kettle and inhale the steam of rosemary tea.

That makes a lot of sense, since rosemary has antioxidant, antifungal and antimicrobial properties . The antioxidant properties are said to inhibit the growth of Escherichia coli, Bacillus cereus, Staphylococcus aureus , Clostridium perfringens, Salmonella choleraesuis, Brochothrix thermosphacta and Enterobacteriaceae.

I'm impressed! I hope it works for you, Nob!

(06-16-2025, 11:35 PM)Nugget Wrote: That makes a lot of sense, since rosemary has antioxidant, antifungal and antimicrobial properties . The antioxidant properties are said to inhibit the growth of Escherichia coli, Bacillus cereus, Staphylococcus aureus , Clostridium perfringens, Salmonella choleraesuis, Brochothrix thermosphacta and Enterobacteriaceae.

I'm impressed! I hope it works for you, Nob!

Thanks for the well-wishing there Nugget.

I guess rosemary is more than a culinary wallflower, she has talent too.

The herb tea did actually open up the sinuses, there was a localised colder feeling as well. The infection is in the eustachian tube and inner ear as well, so we will probably need more than just rosemary's assistance here.

Now the interesting part of the exercise. We use me as the guinea pig, along with the illness we want to test using the pendulum.

So we do exactly the same thing, except we use the Voynich as our list of available remedies. Which gives:

   
Left page 22. Right page 24

The one on the left gave a stronger response.  Most plants gave no real response with the pendulum when individually tested, except for a few which were strongly contra-indicated.

So let's dowse for "location" of said illness. Ordinarily, this would be a location corresponding to the physical body of the patient. An organ or system, for example, and can include the subtle anatomy of the aetheric and astral.

   
From page 153.

   
From page 153.

   
From page 154. Only the right half of the illustration was indicated as appropriate.

While this doesn't tell us much at all, it does indicate is that we can get results using the dowsing sense, a dowsing instrument (pendulum), and structured query. 

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Interestingly, while doing the exercise of looking for an anatomical location in the human body, one illustration struck me as curious.

In a way, one can say the focus of the exercise has been upon the microcosm. That is the parts of the body.

The other way, is to focus on the macrocosm. That is what the body is a part of.

As a dowser we stand between the microcosm and macrocosm, relatively speaking.

Up until now in this exercise we have been looking into the microcosm, and now we shall look into the macrocosm.

The illustration below reminded me of birth, life and death.

   

Which in turn reminded me of the roads of the unborn.

The roads of the unborn will take a bit of explanation.  They are akin to the fairy roads of folklore that crisscross the countryside. The difference is, it is not the deceased and fae that travel here, the travellers are the unborn. So picture astral roads that those who are going to be born here travel to find suitable mothers to be.  The roads of the unborn only have one exit, and that exit is between a woman's legs.

There is a correspondence here with the Hindu and Buddhist teachings, although from my perspective those teachings are rather euphemistic. They say there is a reason to escape the wheel of rebirth, as it is called, and the Hindu and the Buddhist have their own. However, the fairy folk levelled the opinion to me, that it is reckless to be born without memories, helpless and at the mercy of strangers.  Anyway, be that as it may . . .

In our modern medical scheme of things, they say the womb is just a bodily organ.  There is also another, far older 'scheme of things' that see the bodily organs as each a part of something else. Even though the organs exist within our own abdomens.

In this scheme of things, a woman's womb is a fruit of a tree. Many wombs are linked in this way. So one can actually picture an orchard of fruiting trees, with the individual fruit as individual women's wombs. Womenfolk are all linked in this way, well, at least all their wombs are. It is here within the trees that bear fruit that one finds the roads of the unborn.

This is the fairy view, and not the religious view of the last few thousand years. This view is older than that, and very much suppressed.

Now, this is not the Kabbalistic "Tree Of Life" either. That is something else entirely and not to be confused.

The concepts the Voynich manuscript illustrate are very different from what we understand today. One needs to put aside religious and conventional esoteric thinking. In a nutshell; one needs to unlearn to understand what is illustrated and written in the Voynich. That is my perspective anyway.

Rudolf Steiner said something relevant in one of his lectures. Probably one of his agricultural ones. He said the Beings of Nature (nature spirits) once resided within our (abdominal) organs, and will again reside there in the future.  That implies humanity is in a period of time when the Nature Spirits'  influence upon our consciousness is minimal. Also implied is humanity once upon a time had a very intimate association with the Household of Nature and the Beings therein. It is also implied that humanity will have that relationship again in the future.

That leaves the present time. From memories of the time when I would read Steiner, there was the idea that humanity was to develop a sense of spirituality of his own. Something he called 'the Christ consciousness'.  There is also a connection with the mystery schools. Some sort of spiritual evolution one might suggest.

As for me, I'm not all that taken by the plans of Mystery Schools and their brand of spirituality. I'm much more at home in the fairy way. 

Here is something I wrote back on ATS that sums up the question surrounding the Voynich manuscript. A short conversation between two seekers of knowledge.

A way forward, if you will.

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The Old Man and the Tree of Life

Where is this tree pray tell? Upon which mystic mountaintop did you glimpse such high heavens of arcane knowledge?

Do not waste your time upon the mountain top. If it is a tree you seek, you will not find it there.

The temple? A shrine? Which one? I must know!

That too is a waste of time young man if you truly want to know.

Who has this knowledge? Where are they to be found?

My advice to you young man is to go home and marry your girl. On your wedding night; you will find your tree.

You are mad old man! Nothing do you know!

The young man stomps off in disgust and joins a monastery in the hope that suffering and abstinence will show him the way. The old man simply smiled and went home to his family and evening meal. Some time later the two meet again.

Tell me old man! Where can I find this tree!

The old man thought for a moment.

'Twas the fairy folk who showed me this. . . . .

The fruit of a tree of life . . . .

is hidden . . . .

behind the veil . . . .

of a maiden's skirt.

A maiden's womb is simply the fruit of a tree.

If you want to know the secrets of life young man, go home and marry your girl.

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