Last Pope Prophecy Of Saint Malachi

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Maybe the journalists were just being rude. It does catch your eye though.

Interpreting prophecy can be difficult, just trying to explain hot pants and mini skirts to adults would have been awkward . . .

In the Vatican's case, circumstantial evidence points to the American president buying spiritual favours, and subsequently the Cardinals committed simony. That would mean there is no current pope and the person in the pope's position is not "Pope Leo XIV". He is Robert Francis Prevost.

But in a hundred year's time, the history books will probably refer to 113th pope as being "Pope Leo XIV", and use that to unfairly debunk Malachi.

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Thought I would quote the short version of Saint Malachi's prophecy.

St. Malachy, an Irish Catholic bishop, was known as a gifted prophet, even predicting the date of his own death in 1148. The first native-born Irishman to be canonized, he is known in the Roman Catholic Church for his work as a healer, a miracle worker, and as a reformer of the Church in Ireland. He was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III. Malachy was visiting Rome in 1139 when he went into a trance and received a vision. He wrote down this extraordinary vision in which he claims to have foreseen all of the popes from the death of Innocent II until the destruction of the church and the return of Christ. He named exactly 112 popes from that time until the end.

First published in 1595 by Arnold de Wyon, a Benedictine monk, Malachy’s prophecy consists of 112 short Latin descriptions of future popes. Each of these descriptions identifies one outstanding trait for each of these future popes, beginning with Pope Celestine II, who was elected in 1130. This list stretches all the way from the time of St. Malachy to the present, describing, among many others, Pope John Paul II, Benedict XVI, and finally, “Peter the Roman”, the last pope prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

A modern version of Malachy’s prophecies was published in 1969 by Archbishop H. E. Cardinale, the Apostolic Nuncio to Belgium and Luxembourg. Cardinale wrote “it is fair to say the vast majority of Malachy’s predictions about successive Popes is amazingly accurate – always remembering that he gives only a minimum of information.”

The Final Entry: The Last Pope

The final of the 112 Latin entries of the prophecy reads as follows.

In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills (Rome) will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The End.

Source: Veritas Vincit - The Last Pope? Revisiting the Prophecy of St. Malachy

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Most seers will will tell you this is the path we're on, but is always subject to change because of the nature of human behavior.

Donald Trump seems to be a wlid card and it seems a lot of seers had a hard time even coming close in their predictions.  Remember, obama was supposed to be the last US president and then the world would end, according to more than one famous seer of old.

'The End' has come and gone so many times in my life I've lost count.  2012 really stood out when they changed the meaning of the prophecy after it failed to live up to previous expectations.

Maybe those ancient seers got it right this time, or perhaps human behavior has changed the timeline and their predictions no longer apply. The reaction people have to these prophecies is what I find most interesting.

Could the prophecy mean the foundation of the Catholic church will be destroyed? It sure looks like they'reon shaky ground and in need of being reinvented. Then there's Edgar Cayce's prediction of esarthquakes in the latter days where all of Italy will be swallowed by the oceans and cease to exist.

I think we're going to need some hingsight on this one.

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Mother Shipton made me really wonder if she was remote viewing some future time.

I had heard of her, but now I've come across her name again today after seeing it here already.

Interesting stuff attributed her, but I got a few books so I can figure out which seem direct from her and which were added later.

Only one of them looks to have decent image quality, but they're all under 40 pages it looks like.

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To date there have been 267 popes; I have no clue  how to figure if Malachy's prediction/prophecy came after the reign of the first 155 popes.

Math makes my head hurt. 

ETA: Well, here's an interesting addition: (AI answer)

'According to the list of popes, there have been 266 popes in the history of the Catholic Church, starting with St. Peter in 32 A.D..
Saint Malachy was the 112th pope in this list, which means 111 popes came before him.
However, it's important to note that the list attributed to Saint Malachy, which includes 112 popes, is considered a forgery by many historians and was first published in 1595.'

[NobodySpecial268]

Most seers will will tell you this is the path we're on, but is always subject to change because of the nature of human behavior.

Donald Trump seems to be a wlid card and it seems a lot of seers had a hard time even coming close in their predictions.  Remember, obama was supposed to be the last US president and then the world would end, according to more than one famous seer of old.

'The End' has come and gone so many times in my life I've lost count.  2012 really stood out when they changed the meaning of the prophecy after it failed to live up to previous expectations.

Maybe those ancient seers got it right this time, or perhaps human behavior has changed the timeline and their predictions no longer apply. The reaction people have to these prophecies is what I find most interesting.

Could the prophecy mean the foundation of the Catholic church will be destroyed? It sure looks like they'reon shaky ground and in need of being reinvented. Then there's Edgar Cayce's prediction of esarthquakes in the latter days where all of Italy will be swallowed by the oceans and cease to exist.

I think we're going to need some hingsight on this one.

Yeah, Back in 1973 is when I heard my first "the end is nigh". A schoolfriend secretly showed me their prepper family's "stockpile of food". About 2020, I thought about prepping and realised that I did not have the heart to do it. How could I feed my own kids and leave their friends to starve. Better to work together as a community.

Personally, I don't think people originally set out to see the future. The fairies show me things, and one day they showed me a judgement at a mediaeval inquisition. A woman was before the churchmen and had been tortured, yet was still defiant. She said to her judges: "As you rape us, so shall you rape your own." - we all know how that turned out a few hundred years later. The young lady was correct.

I think the seers just write down what they saw, then other people get hold of the writings and make a mess, twist things. We need to keep in mind that the church has the habit of changing history to suit itself. Science is like that too. Science was born in 1833 when the name was coined and the structure of thinking was being created. Before that, people were natural philosophers rather than "scientists". Science created a history for itself and began to adopt natural philosophers from the past to populate and validate it's very materialistic world-view. I would think any natural philosopher from the past would be horrified with what materialistic scientific thought has done to the human mind.

Could the prophecy mean the foundation of the Catholic Church will be destroyed?

I was thinking about that yesterday. Everyone thinks Malachi's predictions involve the whole world, but do they? Or only apply to the Catholic Church? I think it is the latter.

Malachi is said to have been born in 1094, and died in 1148. If that is right, then his visions occurred in that time.

Now, shortly before Malachi's time occurred what is called the Great Schism in 1054.

The East–West Schism, also known as the Great Schism or the Schism of 1054, is the break of communion between the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church since 1054. A series of ecclesiastical differences and theological disputes between the Greek East and Latin West preceded the formal split that occurred in 1054.

Source: East West Schism

So the church split into two before Malachi's visions. So I would not include the Eastern Orthodox Church within the "end times" of the western church.

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I have been digging about on the net for information about the prophecy of Saint Malachi. A lot of people associate the second coming of Jesus Christ as the outcome. Yet as far as I can tell, the second coming is not something Malachi foresaw. That seems to be added by other people.

“In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman), who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End.”

Peter the Roman is said to be the late Francis. After which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed, and then the end.

The end of what exactly?

Well, Malachi didn't say.

The end of the Western Church that split from the Eastern Orthodox is one thought.

And could "judgement" be triggered by the election of Robert Francis Prevost to the position of the head of the Catholic Church.?

The phrase used by the Cardinals “I call as my witness Christ the Lord who will be my judge, that my vote is given to the one who before God I think should be elected.” might be a clue here. If used wrongly, might that trigger something?

As Clint Eastwood said in Pale Rider: "Can't serve god and mammon both. Mammon being money."