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The Voynich Manuscript: A Research Compilation

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The idea of deciphering the images rather than the text is what I'll post here. We may be able to gain some insights into the purpose of the Voynich manuscript.

However, this is research that is in the realm of theoretical at this point in time.

We will need to go into the subjects of alchemy, biodynamic agriculture, and Rudolf Stiener.  This cannot be helped, and I will explain as best I can.

Let's begin with this image from the Voynich manuscript.

   

What we see here is what seems to be a cat like creature in the position of the underground portion of the plant, the roots.  Instead of the head, there is a flowering plant form which would be above ground.  So a mixed creature that is animal and plant in one.

Now, I don't really want to post the same content in two different threads, so to gain an understanding I suggest the reader takes a look at the Shadow People thread in conjunction with this thread.

Over on the Shadow People thread we are studying a similar thing. At this point in the thread The Carbon Connection a shadow creature is introduced that is similar to the image from the Voynich manuscript.

Here it is:

   

This drawing was made by a young lady who can see the shadow creatures in her garden.

This is what we call a 'shadow tube cat' that has the forward portion of a cat that extends from garden shrubs as a black tube. My thoughts are we are looking at two different stages in the evolution of similar creatures. The 'tube cat' is very simple, only the forward portion has developed, whereas the Voynich image the creature is more complex having developed both the animal and the plant. Perhaps what may be called a chimera.

The connection of carbon and sulphur with shadow creatures, introduces the concept of alchemy.  Which in turn may help explain the images in the Voynich manuscript.

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(Yesterday, 10:19 PM)NobodySpecial268 Wrote: The idea of deciphering the images rather than the text is what I'll post here. We may be able to gain some insights into the purpose of the Voynich manuscript.

I did mess around before with some things like numerology, symbolic meanings from alchemical traditions, and position/alignment (lack of symmetry in the plant itself) using AI, but didn't think it was informative enough to make a post on it. Since you're looking more at it from that angle, maybe it will be informative to you. It specifically mentioned the root resembling an animal and I hadn't even noticed really prior.

The problem with the numerology and symbols is that unless we have some idea of the specific school, and have records from them, there's a whole world of possibilities for each sets of numbers (like the number of leaves per stalk, the number of flowers, the number of petals on the flowers). Some numerology is also pretty vague, like Chaldean. The symbolism may be clearer to somebody that knows more about the various schools, but my knowledge of it is just from doing broad surveys of the systems. To me they're all sort of similar and mostly indistinguishable unless they have specific nomenclature that's catchy enough for me to remember.

The AI offered that it could be showing ascension, starting with the primordial animal (root bulb) and culminating in the heavens (the trumpet-like flowers), from the perspective of some alchemist schools at the time. It had reasons for it, but I didn't find them compelling as far as solid evidence. It did mention that it wasn't uncommon for herbalists (which if they were doing manuscripts were probably also what we would consider alchemists) to portray the roots of plants as an animal aspect that represented the qualities of the plant's healing (or harmful, I suppose) nature. I would guess that follows the general alchemists model with earth, air, fire, and water... then the tria prima (trefoil symbol in alchemy) of sulphur, mercury, and salt, which would eventually become part of the foundations of ritual magic. In my opinion, of course.

Now that you got me writing about the analysis it occurred to me there is a plant family called trefoil as well, with flowers that are close... but no cigar. Interesting though that we have a trefoil like flower, forming three flowering heads, at the top.

   
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Quote:I did mess around before with some things like numerology, symbolic meanings from alchemical traditions, and position/alignment (lack of symmetry in the plant itself) using AI, but didn't think it was informative enough to make a post on it. Since you're looking more at it from that angle, maybe it will be informative to you. It specifically mentioned the root resembling an animal and I hadn't even noticed really prior.

The problem with the numerology and symbols is that unless we have some idea of the specific school, and have records from them, there's a whole world of possibilities for each sets of numbers (like the number of leaves per stalk, the number of flowers, the number of petals on the flowers). Some numerology is also pretty vague, like Chaldean. The symbolism may be clearer to somebody that knows more about the various schools, but my knowledge of it is just from doing broad surveys of the systems. To me they're all sort of similar and mostly indistinguishable unless they have specific nomenclature that's catchy enough for me to remember.

In the later part of the Voynich manuscript, it looks like it gives the planetary and astrological influences in the fold out sections. There is a book by the (Steiner) biodynamic agriculture folk called Planetary Influences Upon Plants by Ernst Michael Kranich that gives a lot of info about the role of planetary and astrological in the formation of the plant. That may be helpful if we get that far. Probably better to leave that to the experts out there.

I don't think we need to think in terms of symbolism in the Voynich manuscript, I reckon the people who wrote the book were working in the field. If we look at a page, the illustration would have been drawn first and the text second as notes in the free space. These guys were recording what they encountered by the layout of the page.

Here is something else I realised last night. To the gardener's eye, this looks like grafting.

   

   

Now, here is a photo of four different cacti grafted on prickly pear.

   
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So quite probably we are seeing grafting in some of these drawings. Now if we take the illustration of a feline with the head replaced with a plant, this isn't the sort of grafting done in this realm.


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If the ancients discovered the secrets of life and created living machines, the question arises: Where do the machines go when they die?
Discover the answer to that, my friend, and you will find the machines.
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